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File:Davidnippon.jpg

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File:Davidnippon.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Rōnin (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused user photo. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 00:24, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Icairns.jpg

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File:Icairns.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Icairns (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused user photo. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 00:25, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Castile.jpg

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File:Castile.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Uquillas (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned low-quality map of Spain. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 00:35, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:VU Pakistan Feasibility Study.pdf

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File:VU Pakistan Feasibility Study.pdf (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Arifskhan1 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

PDF Report which is better suited to Wikisource if PD claim checks out. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:36, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - No evidence that this document is in the public domain. Commentary on the upload actually contradicts the claim of public domain indicating the material is copyrighted, and permission is only granted to quote or reprint. -- Whpq (talk) 14:26, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Rightclick.gif

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F11 by Secret (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 16:11, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Rightclick.gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lupus2k5 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused low-quality screenshot. No evidence that Microsoft has released this to the public domain. Stefan2 (talk) 00:43, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:HSDF.gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by TDS (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned logo. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 00:49, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:GPoll.JPG

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File:GPoll.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Serbianna2 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 00:53, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Andrewquinton.JPG

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File:Andrewquinton.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Drewquinton (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused userphoto. Stefan2 (talk) 00:57, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:PixelPerfect.GIF

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File:PixelPerfect.GIF (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by CherryT (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 01:00, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:BPA Ellipse 1.jpg

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File:BPA Ellipse 1.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kevin Maloney (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 01:00, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:BPA Ellipse 2.jpg

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File:BPA Ellipse 2.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kevin Maloney (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 01:01, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:BPA Ellipse 3.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kevin Maloney (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 01:01, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:BPA Ellipse 4.jpg

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File:BPA Ellipse 4.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kevin Maloney (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 01:01, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:BPA Ellipse 5.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kevin Maloney (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 01:01, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:BPA Ellipse 6.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kevin Maloney (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 01:01, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:BPA Ellipse 7.jpg

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File:BPA Ellipse 7.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kevin Maloney (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 01:01, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:BPA Ellipse 8.jpg

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File:BPA Ellipse 8.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kevin Maloney (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 01:02, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 01:02, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:BPA Ellipse 10.jpg

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File:BPA Ellipse 10.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kevin Maloney (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 01:02, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Optiontwo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by OptionTwo (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 01:02, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Green Day.JPG

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File:Green Day.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Free-Ko-Nay-Cher (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unencyclopædic. Stefan2 (talk) 01:04, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:KaDee Strickland in Train Ride.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by MER-C (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 06:03, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:KaDee Strickland in Train Ride.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Extraordinary Machine (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Pretty blatant failure of WP:NFCC#8. There's already a free photo of her in the article; this adds nothing. Taylor Trescott - ^{my talk} + _{my edits} 01:05, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The article already has a free image in the infobox and there is only one sentence about the movie thereby failing WP:NFCC#8. Aspects (talk) 10:04, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Flag of Peru.gif

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File:Flag of Peru.gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Andres C. (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. We have better flags of Peru. Stefan2 (talk) 01:05, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Flag of Peru2.PNG

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File:Flag of Peru2.PNG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Andres C. (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. We have better flags of Peru. Stefan2 (talk) 01:06, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Flag of Peru with emblem.png

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File:Flag of Peru with emblem.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Andres C. (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. We have better flags of Peru. Stefan2 (talk) 01:06, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Flag of Ecuador2.PNG

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File:Flag of Ecuador2.PNG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Andres C. (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused. We have better flags of Ecuador. Stefan2 (talk) 01:06, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Ground Zeroes PS4 poster.jpg

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File:Ground Zeroes PS4 poster.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Phailin1 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Redundant to the infobox picture. See WP:NFCC#3a. Stefan2 (talk) 01:29, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Nominator is totally right. WP:NFCC#1 and WP:NFCC#8 are also ignored here. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 08:25, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The only information about the event the poster was created for or the backwards wording is the caption so there is no sourced information for this poster to back up. Aspects (talk) 10:08, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Ninja Gaiden Z cover.jpg

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File:Ninja Gaiden Z cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by AnddoX (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Weak rationale provided that doesn't explain how it adds significant value to the article when compared to File:Yaiba Ninja Gaiden Z.jpg. Similar situation with Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2013 December 20#File:Ground Zeroes PS4 poster.jpg « Ryūkotsusei » 01:49, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Jyte - Homepage.png

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File:Jyte - Homepage.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Benjamin Crulli (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan Benjamin Crulli (talk) 04:13, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Paris-Roubaix - Secteur pavé de Vertain à Saint-Martin sur Ecaillon (du 25 mars au 4 Avril).jpg

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File:Paris-Roubaix - Secteur pavé de Vertain à Saint-Martin sur Ecaillon (du 25 mars au 4 Avril).jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Autodidactyl (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Listed source is a dead link, meaning claimed permission cannot be verified. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:23, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The Wayback Machine has a copy. I can confirm in the archived copy that there is indeed a note indicating "toutes les photos du dossier ont été réalisées par l’association, elles sont libres d’usage" which translates to "all photos in the folder were made by the association, they are free to use". -- Whpq (talk) 14:18, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete "Libre d'usage" is too unspecific. Unclear if modification is permitted. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:06, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Paris Roubaix - Les forçats du pavé at Mons en Pévèle - 01.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:09, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Paris Roubaix - Les forçats du pavé at Mons en Pévèle - 01.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Autodidactyl (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Listed source is a dead link, meaning claimed permission cannot be verified. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:24, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The Wayback Machine has a copy. I can confirm in the archived copy that there is indeed a note indicating "toutes les photos du dossier ont été réalisées par l’association, elles sont libres d’usage" which translates to "all photos in the folder were made by the association, they are free to use". -- Whpq (talk) 14:20, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete "Libre d'usage" is too unspecific. Unclear if modification is permitted. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:06, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Paris-Roubaix, Secteur pavé de Capelle – Buat.jpg

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File:Paris-Roubaix, Secteur pavé de Capelle – Buat.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Autodidactyl (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Listed source is a dead link, meaning claimed permission cannot be verified. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:24, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The Wayback Machine has a copy. I can confirm in the archived copy that there is indeed a note indicating "toutes les photos du dossier ont été réalisées par l’association, elles sont libres d’usage" which translates to "all photos in the folder were made by the association, they are free to use". -- Whpq (talk) 14:20, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete "Libre d'usage" is too unspecific. Unclear if modification is permitted. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:07, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Comparebrownred.PNG

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File:Comparebrownred.PNG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Luckydoubt (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Fails WP:NFCC#1 in the only article is which it is used: ROM hacking. A free game could be created that could then be hacked in a similar way, or a free mockup of how an original game might be modified in a ROM hack could be made for the same purpose. The justification given in the NFUR that Pokémon Red is well-known is irrelevant and insufficient to satisfy WP:NFCC. RJaguar3 | u | t 23:30, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The ROM hacking scene consists almost entirely of hacking ROMs of commercial games. Moreover, the ability to modify commercially released video games for platforms such as the Game Boy is something that is unlikely to occur to somebody who has not already heard of ROM hacking. Showing a picture doing exactly that with a familiar game is a quick and powerful way to convey what ROM hacking is, what potential it has, and what appeal it has. Using a FOSS game that nobody has heard of would obscure these points. Therefore, I would say the image is permissible under criterion #1 (which I presume is the criterion under contention) on the grounds that using an image of a FOSS game is not equivalent, and therefore, there is no free equivalent. - furrykef (Talk at me) 07:06, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The image could be replaced with a comparison image based on a free game. Readers can learn that commercial game hacking is possible by reading article text. From an encyclopedic, informational perspective, a non-free image is not required. Anonymous-232 (talk) 07:13, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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File:PokemonYellowMew.JPG

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File:PokemonYellowMew.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tezero (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Fails WP:NFCC#3 and WP:NFCC#8. This image is one of three non-free images on Mew (Pokémon), which borders on excessive. Additionally, the image of a wild battle with Mew does not illustrate Mew in R/B/Y or the Mew glitch beyond what is already explained in text. RJaguar3 | u | t 23:45, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Nothing wrong and this is very rare picture to captured 16:46, 11 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.87.91.103 (talk)
Delete Seemingly random image. Redundant to the infobox image. See WP:NFCC#3a. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:48, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Well thank you for making GA article less-GA with this picture.-->AldNon^Ucallin?☎ 03:53, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, Picture illustrates a rare moment in the game --Papagaai35 (talk) 11:46, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete; Even if the image was of a high technical quality, other images in the article serve the same purpose. Anonymous-232 (talk) 06:58, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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File:MacOSX Leopard Dock Overloaded.png

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File:MacOSX Leopard Dock Overloaded.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Umar1996 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Inclusion of an excessive number of non-free icons violates WP:NFCC#3 RJaguar3 | u | t 23:58, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Nominator is right. I can see Adobe Photoshop, Adobe ImageReady, Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Microsoft PowerPoint, Microsoft OneNote, Yahoo! Messenger, Skype, µTorrent and Opera (web browser) there. They are absolutely unnecessary. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 08:22, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Does nit increase understanding as there is already a screenshot of this dock in the article. ViperSnake151 Talk 20:11, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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